The cause of animal like behaviour is also in the system of education.
Lucky are we, who had been taught the best way of living by good south Indian literatures.
The moral we learnt from 'Aram Seyya Virumbu', 'Aaruvadu Sinam',etc, from Avvaiyar's Aathichudi and more from Thirukkural, etc... had made us Good human beings than any other religious preachings. These morals are more valuable than what our children are getting from 'Ring-a-Ring- a-Roses', 'Johny-Johny- Yes-Papa' , etc....
The subject of Social studies in schools of neighbouring countries contain lot of false projections on India and other religions. Their people are never made aware of the truth. This kind of poisoning is done right from the childhood...
Entire world is yet to find a solution to this problem, causing more worries to the Globans..
The cause of global worries is 'Manidha Abhimaanam Seththukittu irukku or even say Seththu vittadhu (the quality of being human is dead. If not, some humans will not behave like animals.
'Aaruvadhu Sinam'...means 'One should try to control his/her anger'...This will help you not to behave like an animal.. There is a difference between animal behaviour and lack of agressiveness in professional way.
If you get a chance read the adhigaaram 'Veghulaamai' on not getting anger. How much disaster will be caused by not controlling one's anger. Crossing the limit in not controlling one's anger is equalent to one person being dead and Crossing the limit in controlling anger is equivalent to becoming Gnani. So we should decide where we want to be.
I agree that we are not taught enough on how to dominate others. I hope you saw the recent Vijay TV Talk show 'Neeya Naana' which discussed about Madhiya Manasa (Brain or Heart, which one should rule what)...Finally the judgement was given as one should use both.
If someone suggests to modify those Avai's Aathisudi and Thiruvalluvar's Thirukural according to modern life, I will disagree on that. because, let the base be as it is. They are the only good things we have and we should not loose them. I recommend one can purchase copies of Thirukkural to teach them to their children and gift them to friends. By knowing a part of them, it is early to say that we should change them. Let us try to understand it in full to find solution to the present day problems.
Let us not come to a conclusion that we should modernise these good literatures. In fact we should propogate these characteristics to younger generations, instead of changing them.
Learning to behave in professional way is different from animal like behaviour. Can any one recommend to change the contents of any other books on ways of life in relation to the changing culture?
Friday, August 21, 2009
Thursday, August 20, 2009
My interpretation of Kalki Avatar
Hindu Mythology says:
The tenth and the last avatar, or incarnation of Vishnu, Kalki, is yet to appear. Kalki will appear seated on a white horse with a drawn sword. He shall come finally to destroy the wicked, to restart the new creation, and to restore the purity of conduct in people's lives.
I could interpret this Kalki story to reality like this: The white horse is nothing but the clouds(sky) and the drawn sword is the blazing of comet.
So far the Earth is being protected from comets, thanks to the gravitational pulls of Saturn and Jupiter.
Nostradamus predictions says:
The tenth and the last avatar, or incarnation of Vishnu, Kalki, is yet to appear. Kalki will appear seated on a white horse with a drawn sword. He shall come finally to destroy the wicked, to restart the new creation, and to restore the purity of conduct in people's lives.
I could interpret this Kalki story to reality like this: The white horse is nothing but the clouds(sky) and the drawn sword is the blazing of comet.
So far the Earth is being protected from comets, thanks to the gravitational pulls of Saturn and Jupiter.
Nostradamus predictions says:
Le monde proche du dernier periode,
Saturne encor tard sera de retour;
Translat empier devers nation Brodde,
L’oeil arrache a Narbon par autour.
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The world approaching its final period,
Saturn will again come late to his return;
The empire will be changed over to the dark-skinned nations,
And Narbonne will have her eye picked out by a hawk.
Toward the end of this great round, the black and brown nations will come into their own as centers of world power, and the French and other European nations will lose their supremacy. We are now entering the final phase of the old “world” or age, and the Third World nations are indeed coming into their own. This indicates a coming period of great ascent for brown and black races in the new order
If Nostradamus predictions are to be believed and the Mayan calendar applied then there is a possibilty of an asteroid/comet hitting earth between 2012 till 2020 causing partial extinction during the transition period.
http://cosmiclog. msnbc.msn. com/archive/ 2009/07/30/ 2014376.aspx
We also believe that a collision from an asteroid was responsible for the extinction of dinosaurs from the earth 65 million years ago.
Some of my views on Hindu Mythology
Why was the ocean churned in Hindu mythology?
In Hindu mythology, the churning of ocean was one of the central events in the ever-continuing struggle between the devas, who were gods, and the asuras, who were demons.
Both the gods and the demons wanted Amrit, the nectar of immortality which would give them the power to live forever. Brahma, the Creator, advised the gods to churn the ocean to obtain Amrit. He told them to use the Mount Meru as the churning stick, and the Serpent Vasuki as the rope that turns the churning stick.
The gods and demons wound the serpent around the mountain, and pulling it this way and that way, they splashed and dashed the ocean up and down and to and fro, and the ocean frothed and bubbled as they churned. The gods and demons continued churning for 100 divine years. As the churning proceeded, wine, milk, and butter were produced.. The ocean gave up many of its treasures as well as deadly poison that Lord Siva swallowed to save the universe from being destroyed.
I could relate this story to two real-time incidents:
1) Tsunami, which happens as a result of the earth quakes(on land surface or mountains) in the deep ocean. The rope is nothing but the cracks on the floor under ocean. The splashing and dashing of the ocean causes heavy waves.
2) Solar ecllipse, the appearance of Moon hidding the Sun was assumed as deadly poison, and slowly the Sun reappears after the ecllipse... the slow movement of Moon was assumed as Lord Siva swallowing the Moon. It is also told as deadly poison because if the ecllipse is seen with naked eye, it will burn the cornea of eyes, relating it to save the universe from being destroyed... Even during ecllipse, heavy tidal waves are created at sea shores due to the gravitational attraction of the sun and the moon. Reappearance of Sun is said as saving the universe from being destroyed, because without Sunlight human existence becomes impossible.
Both these incidents happen severely once in every 100 years.
So if were remove Gods and Demons from the story everything else is real time incidents.
If we are preaching these stories to our children, it will be nice if we could relate them to realtime events than just stories.
P.S: There is also a mountain called Meru in Kenya.
In Hindu mythology, the churning of ocean was one of the central events in the ever-continuing struggle between the devas, who were gods, and the asuras, who were demons.
Both the gods and the demons wanted Amrit, the nectar of immortality which would give them the power to live forever. Brahma, the Creator, advised the gods to churn the ocean to obtain Amrit. He told them to use the Mount Meru as the churning stick, and the Serpent Vasuki as the rope that turns the churning stick.
The gods and demons wound the serpent around the mountain, and pulling it this way and that way, they splashed and dashed the ocean up and down and to and fro, and the ocean frothed and bubbled as they churned. The gods and demons continued churning for 100 divine years. As the churning proceeded, wine, milk, and butter were produced.. The ocean gave up many of its treasures as well as deadly poison that Lord Siva swallowed to save the universe from being destroyed.
I could relate this story to two real-time incidents:
1) Tsunami, which happens as a result of the earth quakes(on land surface or mountains) in the deep ocean. The rope is nothing but the cracks on the floor under ocean. The splashing and dashing of the ocean causes heavy waves.
2) Solar ecllipse, the appearance of Moon hidding the Sun was assumed as deadly poison, and slowly the Sun reappears after the ecllipse... the slow movement of Moon was assumed as Lord Siva swallowing the Moon. It is also told as deadly poison because if the ecllipse is seen with naked eye, it will burn the cornea of eyes, relating it to save the universe from being destroyed... Even during ecllipse, heavy tidal waves are created at sea shores due to the gravitational attraction of the sun and the moon. Reappearance of Sun is said as saving the universe from being destroyed, because without Sunlight human existence becomes impossible.
Both these incidents happen severely once in every 100 years.
So if were remove Gods and Demons from the story everything else is real time incidents.
If we are preaching these stories to our children, it will be nice if we could relate them to realtime events than just stories.
P.S: There is also a mountain called Meru in Kenya.
God is a myth
According to Carl Jung, the world famous pyscologist, myths are universal, and necessary for the health of human psyche.
I read, "Myths and legends are a universal human invention.. All races, without exception, have possesed their own unique mythology, which has arisen at different times and in different places, as explanations of the critical problems that people always face.These myths are ancient tales of wonder and glory, they are explanations about the mysteries of the universe in the form of stories that ordinary people can easily understand.
Why myths were created? From ancient times, human beings have been puzzled by many things that they saw around them. They wondered why mountains were shaped the way they were and why volcanoes spit fire. They pondered on what caused eclipses, and what made the sun move from East to West. They were amazed by the movement of the tides, the restless seas, the vast skies. They were also bewildered by the many mysteries of life. why do people die? What happens after death? Their questions were endless.
Wise men tried to find an explanation for all this, and they also tried to make ordinary people understand their reasoning through the wonderous stories called myths. Ancient rulers also played an important part in creating myths, and changing them too, when it suited them!
Some myths took the form of sacred religious texts, and were retold faithfully. Others changed with each teller, and people often forgot what the original version was! It is only much later, with the invention of the printing press that myhts were written down in a fixed form, So, a myth doesn't have an 'author' like a story has."
P.S: The authors of Ramayana might have overheard of it and put in print form. When Ram returned to Ayodhya with Sita and narrated the incidents, he might have told that some of the Dravidians were looking like monkeys and the painter literally drew dravidians with monkey-like mouths and tails.
People are spending more time in religious thoughts(listening to mythological stories) in their daily routines than highlighting the mistakes of the rulers and Gundas, ultimately causing the world a more insecure place to stay.
So believe in God only to the extent of gaining power to questioning the ruler and maintaining nature(environment) as it is at the time of creation.
I too believe in God only to the extent of getting additional strength to perform my duties. It can only be a moral support.
Add-ons:
Various mythologys around the world:
Greek mythology inspired the famous epics, the Iliad and Odyssey, Roman mythology, Mesapotamian myths, Egyptian Mythology, Indian Mythology, Chinese Mythology, Japanese mythology, African mythology, 'Celtic, Slavic and Nordic' Mythology, North and South American Mythology
I read, "Myths and legends are a universal human invention.. All races, without exception, have possesed their own unique mythology, which has arisen at different times and in different places, as explanations of the critical problems that people always face.These myths are ancient tales of wonder and glory, they are explanations about the mysteries of the universe in the form of stories that ordinary people can easily understand.
Why myths were created? From ancient times, human beings have been puzzled by many things that they saw around them. They wondered why mountains were shaped the way they were and why volcanoes spit fire. They pondered on what caused eclipses, and what made the sun move from East to West. They were amazed by the movement of the tides, the restless seas, the vast skies. They were also bewildered by the many mysteries of life. why do people die? What happens after death? Their questions were endless.
Wise men tried to find an explanation for all this, and they also tried to make ordinary people understand their reasoning through the wonderous stories called myths. Ancient rulers also played an important part in creating myths, and changing them too, when it suited them!
Some myths took the form of sacred religious texts, and were retold faithfully. Others changed with each teller, and people often forgot what the original version was! It is only much later, with the invention of the printing press that myhts were written down in a fixed form, So, a myth doesn't have an 'author' like a story has."
P.S: The authors of Ramayana might have overheard of it and put in print form. When Ram returned to Ayodhya with Sita and narrated the incidents, he might have told that some of the Dravidians were looking like monkeys and the painter literally drew dravidians with monkey-like mouths and tails.
People are spending more time in religious thoughts(listening to mythological stories) in their daily routines than highlighting the mistakes of the rulers and Gundas, ultimately causing the world a more insecure place to stay.
So believe in God only to the extent of gaining power to questioning the ruler and maintaining nature(environment) as it is at the time of creation.
I too believe in God only to the extent of getting additional strength to perform my duties. It can only be a moral support.
Add-ons:
Various mythologys around the world:
Greek mythology inspired the famous epics, the Iliad and Odyssey, Roman mythology, Mesapotamian myths, Egyptian Mythology, Indian Mythology, Chinese Mythology, Japanese mythology, African mythology, 'Celtic, Slavic and Nordic' Mythology, North and South American Mythology
Societal Problems
Instead of making passers-by comments on the problems faced by in our society, let us seriously analyse where we(as a society) are making mistakes and atleast try to find some solution and bring situation under control. It will definitely take 3-4 generations to find a better India than more worse.
Problem no:1
"Self improvement is what our system/education preaches to our society". This is one reason people are more self-centered. Younger generation thinks more for self progress, they should also be taught to think for the society.
"Man is a social animal" -- We should propagate this idea.
Problem no:2
"Money is everything in the world" -- this wrong idea is propagated at younger minds, which is causing another havoc... hence people are putting efforts to earn money by all wrong means.
Even those who earn money by proper means should come down on their fondness on money.
"Less money is Peace. More money is Stress. No money is Worse"
Problem no:3
Orphans - "Food and education for orphans" cannot be the only charity service...i feel the orphans should not be created. They are unattended by our society at their adolescence age, which is causing serious bother and creating orphans further.
Problem no:4
Another big problem in our society is caused by religions. "Religions are creating more problems than the benefits it is supposed to create".
Nowadays i myself feel non-religious and it is a very nice feeling. I wish more of you to realise this.
"India is still in medieval period" - We should try to bring it out of this.
"Samathuva uzhagam" uruvaaha padupadavendum.
Hope some of us, list out more of the problems in our society and also suggest solutions how much ever small it may be.
If we can put combined efforts on this, then "it will be greatest service we can do to the society and our birth soil"
Whatever possible and within our limits, let us try to do in proper way... we will work towards this without loosing hopes... "manam thalaraamal padupaduvom".
Problem no:1
"Self improvement is what our system/education preaches to our society". This is one reason people are more self-centered. Younger generation thinks more for self progress, they should also be taught to think for the society.
"Man is a social animal" -- We should propagate this idea.
Problem no:2
"Money is everything in the world" -- this wrong idea is propagated at younger minds, which is causing another havoc... hence people are putting efforts to earn money by all wrong means.
Even those who earn money by proper means should come down on their fondness on money.
"Less money is Peace. More money is Stress. No money is Worse"
Problem no:3
Orphans - "Food and education for orphans" cannot be the only charity service...i feel the orphans should not be created. They are unattended by our society at their adolescence age, which is causing serious bother and creating orphans further.
Problem no:4
Another big problem in our society is caused by religions. "Religions are creating more problems than the benefits it is supposed to create".
Nowadays i myself feel non-religious and it is a very nice feeling. I wish more of you to realise this.
"India is still in medieval period" - We should try to bring it out of this.
"Samathuva uzhagam" uruvaaha padupadavendum.
Hope some of us, list out more of the problems in our society and also suggest solutions how much ever small it may be.
If we can put combined efforts on this, then "it will be greatest service we can do to the society and our birth soil"
Whatever possible and within our limits, let us try to do in proper way... we will work towards this without loosing hopes... "manam thalaraamal padupaduvom".
Why not only Super Power?
Kadavul peraicholli yaemaathi valarkappatta naam, iniyum Kadavul enna sonnarnu kettukittu irukkaruthu muttaalthanam. ..
According to me there is Super power... we need to believe in the super power to lean on and keep moving in our life.... (just like a shoulder to lean on)...otherwise indha Kadavul peraal vandha religion ellame suttha humbug....
Why do we need Super power?....we have to believe in super power till the time we get self control on our activities... oruthanoda activitiesla kattuppaadu varum varai thaan edhellam thevai paduthu... andha kattuppaadu vandhavudan kadavul thannulle eruppadhaaha unaruvaan... kaduvaloda pesuvadhaaha unaruvaan... edhu ovoruvaroda vaal(zh)vilum nadakkum/naddakkanum.... appodhu thaan avan vaalkkai mul(zh)umai adaiyum.... enna vidhyasam endraal adhu eppodhu nadakkum enbatthu thaan ovvoru manusanukkum verupadum... 50/60/70( age) endru adhu neraiya perukku lateaa thaan nadakkum...
Watch the Tamil movie "Arai en 302-il Kadavul'...which is answering part of the questions about God...
Naan paartha China-vil oru religionum kedayadhu... at some stage Govt told their citizens to forgo with religions and concentrate on working hard....Chinese may or may not be intelligent, but very hard working....and Chinese are having peaceful life than any other part of the world.
India-la thottadhukkellam religion thaan...
Plan a trip to China, if any of you really want to know more about it...
According to me there is Super power... we need to believe in the super power to lean on and keep moving in our life.... (just like a shoulder to lean on)...otherwise indha Kadavul peraal vandha religion ellame suttha humbug....
Why do we need Super power?....we have to believe in super power till the time we get self control on our activities... oruthanoda activitiesla kattuppaadu varum varai thaan edhellam thevai paduthu... andha kattuppaadu vandhavudan kadavul thannulle eruppadhaaha unaruvaan... kaduvaloda pesuvadhaaha unaruvaan... edhu ovoruvaroda vaal(zh)vilum nadakkum/naddakkanum.... appodhu thaan avan vaalkkai mul(zh)umai adaiyum.... enna vidhyasam endraal adhu eppodhu nadakkum enbatthu thaan ovvoru manusanukkum verupadum... 50/60/70( age) endru adhu neraiya perukku lateaa thaan nadakkum...
Watch the Tamil movie "Arai en 302-il Kadavul'...which is answering part of the questions about God...
Naan paartha China-vil oru religionum kedayadhu... at some stage Govt told their citizens to forgo with religions and concentrate on working hard....Chinese may or may not be intelligent, but very hard working....and Chinese are having peaceful life than any other part of the world.
India-la thottadhukkellam religion thaan...
Plan a trip to China, if any of you really want to know more about it...
Are we working hard to prove what Mr.Churchill said?
Sixty years ago, when India became independent, Winston Churchill said in the British parliament: "What we are doing is not right. Although it is every human being's birthright to be free, to give freedom to India is not right, because the time is not ripe. And within thirty years it will fall a victim to rogues, scoundrels and thugs. These scoundrels will tear apart the country and disintegrate it in fifty years."
We have been working hard to prove what Mr.Churchill said.
We have been working hard to prove what Mr.Churchill said.
Punishment Free Society
Can anyone find one good reason for giving holidays to Courts just like school holidays... may be during British rule, Britishers preferred going to their homeland during Indian summer.
Why to hang the guilty only for dowry deaths?...why not for Corruption and Theft? ...then only we can progress.
Stage 1) In India, the purpose of Law was to punish the guilty. "குற்றவாளி தண்டிக்க படவேண்டும்"
Stage 2) Later it became not to punish someone who is not found guilt. Please note in stage two even guilt is not punished. "நிரபராதி தண்டிக்கப்படக்கூடாது"
Stage 3) Nowadays Law is used to protect the guilty, which is the reverse of stage 1. "குற்றவாளி தண்டிக்கப்படக்கூடாது"
Punish a few for sample with the Capital punishment, then only public may fear to commit crime. I feel that is the last option left to correct our society.
தக்காங்கு நாடித் தலைச்செல்லா வண்ணத்தால்
ஒத்தாங்கு ஒறுப்பது வேந்து.
-திருவள்ளுவர் அருளிய திருக்குறள்
Meaning in Tamil: செய்த குற்றத்தை நன்கு ஆராய்ந்து, மீண்டும் அக்குற்றம் செய்யாதபடி குற்றத்திற்குத் தக்க தன்டணை தருபவனே அரசன் ஆவான்.
Meaning in English: Who punishes, investigation made in due degree,
So as to stay advance of crime, a king is he.
He is a king who having equitably examined (any injustice which has been brought to his notice), suitably punishes it, so that it may not be again committed.
Why to hang the guilty only for dowry deaths?...why not for Corruption and Theft? ...then only we can progress.
Stage 1) In India, the purpose of Law was to punish the guilty. "குற்றவாளி தண்டிக்க படவேண்டும்"
Stage 2) Later it became not to punish someone who is not found guilt. Please note in stage two even guilt is not punished. "நிரபராதி தண்டிக்கப்படக்கூடாது"
Stage 3) Nowadays Law is used to protect the guilty, which is the reverse of stage 1. "குற்றவாளி தண்டிக்கப்படக்கூடாது"
Punish a few for sample with the Capital punishment, then only public may fear to commit crime. I feel that is the last option left to correct our society.
தக்காங்கு நாடித் தலைச்செல்லா வண்ணத்தால்
ஒத்தாங்கு ஒறுப்பது வேந்து.
-திருவள்ளுவர் அருளிய திருக்குறள்
Meaning in Tamil: செய்த குற்றத்தை நன்கு ஆராய்ந்து, மீண்டும் அக்குற்றம் செய்யாதபடி குற்றத்திற்குத் தக்க தன்டணை தருபவனே அரசன் ஆவான்.
Meaning in English: Who punishes, investigation made in due degree,
So as to stay advance of crime, a king is he.
He is a king who having equitably examined (any injustice which has been brought to his notice), suitably punishes it, so that it may not be again committed.
Suryanamaskar
Given below is the sought-after Suryanamaskar, which is often also, considered the shortcut to great body and mind. Dedicate around 10 seconds daily to each pose, and you would be done with the complete sequence in 2 minutes, giving your entire body and mind, both a good workout. It is preferable to do suryanamaskar early mornings in the open while facing the sun to absorb the immense energy this source provides. Pregnant women must avoid though.
Instructions:
1. Stand straight facing the sun with both hands folded
2. Raise your hands over the head. Bend backwards with the hands too going backwards. Remember to bend from the lower back and not strain the neck too much.
3. Now along with your hands, get your upper body to bend forward towards your knees. Attempt at making your hands go down to your feet, touching them and head being closest to your knees. Again, bend from the lower back to avoid overstretching any of your muscles.
4. Bring the right leg backwards with the knee touching the ground. Left foot to be bent at the knee between the hands.. Hands to be in front of the body with the palms on the ground. Look up.
5. Now arch up your body completely from the hips. Keep the feet together and palms on the ground. Head to be between the hands looking downwards.
6. Bring the body on the ground with the feet, knees, palms, chest and forehead touching.
7. Raise your upper body with the lower firmly on the ground. Bend the upper body backwards as much as comfortable with the back forming a curve.
8. Repeat step 5
9. Repeat step 4 with the left leg going backwards.
10. Repeat step 3
11. Repeat step 2
12. Repeat step 1
9. Repeat step 4 with the left leg going backwards.
10. Repeat step 3
11. Repeat step 2
12. Repeat step 1
Wednesday, August 19, 2009
தமிழினம் என்றால் என்ன?
வடக்கர்களால் மதப்போர்வையில் சிக்கிய தமிழர்கள்.... பொறுப்புணர்ச்சி, கடமை உணர்ச்சியை கண்டால் நடுங்கும் தமிழர்கள்..... சிந்திக்க சோம்பல் படும் தமிழர்கள்....ராமன் ஆண்டாலும் ராவணன் ஆண்டாலும் எனக்கொரு கவலை இல்லை என்று என்னும் தமிழர்கள் இருக்கும் வரை தமிழினதை காப்பாற்றுவது கடினம்.....
தமிழினத்தை காப்பாற்ற உண்மையான தன்னலமற்ற தமிழன் ஆட்சியில் வேண்டும்.
நாம் நினைத்துக் கொண்டு இருக்கிறோம், நாம் புத்திசாலிகள் என்று...
தமிழன் என்று சொல்லடா... தலை நிமிர்ந்து நில்லடா...
தமிழினத்தை காப்பாற்ற உண்மையான தன்னலமற்ற தமிழன் ஆட்சியில் வேண்டும்.
நாம் நினைத்துக் கொண்டு இருக்கிறோம், நாம் புத்திசாலிகள் என்று...
தமிழன் என்று சொல்லடா... தலை நிமிர்ந்து நில்லடா...
கல்வியா செல்வமா வீரமா?
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Selvamum(money power -- people being bribed to caste vote) Veeramum(muscle power -- Gundas) mattume vendru kondu irukkum podhu, kalvi(educated intellects) yaen(?) thanadhu tholviyai othukkolla vendum?
Selvamum(money power -- people being bribed to caste vote) Veeramum(muscle power -- Gundas) mattume vendru kondu irukkum podhu, kalvi(educated intellects) yaen(?) thanadhu tholviyai othukkolla vendum?
Interesting info about Dravidian history
Interesting info about Dravidian history
"Thiruvalluvar and Thirukural are dated much before Hinduism came to dravid region (Southern India). Evidence of Hinduism (vedic or brahmnic practices) started appearing only after 4th century A.D. With this it is clear that Dravidian culture was indeed non-Hindu or non-brahmnic, however many attempts were made to merge this into brahmnic culture. Even dravidian temples like Tirupati, Meenakshi, Kamakshi, Nagaraja , Varadaperumal were once dravidian temples, later they were converted to Hindu temples during 8th Century A.D. at the time of Bhakti movement. Identity of Dravidian culture later framed as Hindu. But majority dravidians prior to this followed Sramanic faith and some Budhist faith. Archaelogical evidences in various parts of Tamilnadu prove existence of only Jainism till 4th Century A.D. Most Brahminic temples were once dravidian temples which followed jain faith."
from http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Tamil_literature
"Thiruvalluvar and Thirukural are dated much before Hinduism came to dravid region (Southern India). Evidence of Hinduism (vedic or brahmnic practices) started appearing only after 4th century A.D. With this it is clear that Dravidian culture was indeed non-Hindu or non-brahmnic, however many attempts were made to merge this into brahmnic culture. Even dravidian temples like Tirupati, Meenakshi, Kamakshi, Nagaraja , Varadaperumal were once dravidian temples, later they were converted to Hindu temples during 8th Century A.D. at the time of Bhakti movement. Identity of Dravidian culture later framed as Hindu. But majority dravidians prior to this followed Sramanic faith and some Budhist faith. Archaelogical evidences in various parts of Tamilnadu prove existence of only Jainism till 4th Century A.D. Most Brahminic temples were once dravidian temples which followed jain faith."
from http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Tamil_literature
